Comments on: They Are Not All Monsters https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/ Wed, 08 May 2024 00:55:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://www.webbweaversconsulting.com/services/wordpress-website-packages/?v=` By: drnancyirwin https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-27 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:05:47 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-27 In reply to Michael.

Absolutely….and juveniles are usually diagnosed with a “Sexual Disorder NOS (not otherwised specified). The DSM-V is coming out next year and there will be many changes to the sexual disorders categories. And that is only one of many facets of this issue that need improvement and clarification!

Thanks again for sharing…

Nancy B. Irwin, PsyD, C.Ht. Psychotherapy/Clinical Hypnosis Speaker/Author

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By: drnancyirwin https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-25 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:32:16 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-25 In reply to Michael.

THank you, Michael, for your great comments and support. You are right about the origins of deviant behavior, however, one cannot be diagnosed as a pedophile until the age of 18. And yes, I totally agree that treating juveniles at the first inkling of inappropriate behavior is crucial to prevent further abuse. Again, thanks for being a concerned citizen! Best of Health, Dr. Nancy

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By: Michael https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-26 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 19:55:13 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-26 In reply to drnancyirwin.

Dr. Nancy, I was not under the impression that we were speaking exclusively about pedophiles. It seems your post was about people who molest children, which includes both pedophiles and non-pedophiles, and certainly includes juveniles. In any case, if a diagnosis of pedophilia can be made for 18- and 19-year-olds then “early 20s” can be replaced with “late teens.” But I think the psychology profession is remiss in requiring someone to be at least 18 in order to be diagnosed with pedophilia. Certainly a 12-year-old who is sexually obsessed with pre-schoolers, or a 15-year-old who is molesting pre-adolescents, has some form of diagnosable sexual disorder, and needs intervention, no matter what label is or is not used.
Regards, Michael

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By: Michael https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-24 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:47:07 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-24 Excellent post, except for one significant bit of misleading information: “They cover all walks of life: early 20’s through 70’s.” It would have been much more accurate to have said “pre-teens through 90s.” In fact, a large proportion of sex offenses are perpetrated by juveniles, and making that point would have been highly consistent with the message of the post. Adults tend to look the other way when the perpetrator is another child, because they think of it as harmless ordinary behavior, or because they think an otherwise well-behaved child would never do such a thing. (I’m not talking about truly ordinary sexual behavior among children, like playing doctor or consensual sex between teen lovers.) But a large percentage of adult sex offenders began offending when they were adolescents, or earlier, and if we want to prevent sexual offending by adults we need to intervene before they become adults, before the patterns become solidified. Sadly, our society’s attitude about sex makes such intervention improbable.

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By: drnancyirwin https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-20 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 04:51:27 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-20 In reply to justus1.

Thanks, Jackie, for your comments. I am so sorry for your husband’s poor treatment. There ARE places for those in his position to turn to for help BEFORE they act out on their deviant thoughts/fantasies. I work for one: Pacific Professional Associates (PPA) in Van Nuys (Los Angeles), CA. We have people come in on a voluntary basis and, yes, of course as a mental health professional I am mandated to report any admission/commission of sex crimes, however, we are NOT mandated to report thoughts/fantasies/inappropriate attractions. Perhaps your husband was the victim of an over-zealous, angry therapist who misunderstood his/her responsibilities.

It takes a very brave person to, in spite of the shame, admit to this proclivity and seek treatment to manage it. Hopefully our words here will help people just like that!

I wish you both well in your healing. Best of Health, Dr. Nancy

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By: justus1 https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-19 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:51:04 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-19 “Many child molesters and pedophiles actually hate themselves for what they consider uncontrollable urges and would get help if they knew where to turn.”

IF they knew where to turn???? As far as I know there IS no where they can turn. I would like to know what the Good Doctor has to say to this question:

How many instances of molestation could we PREVENT if these people could go to any mental health professional and say they are having urges, and/or thoughts towards children that they KNOW are not normal and healthy, and expect to receive therapy instead of prison time.

After my husband’s arrest, I tried everything I could to find help for him. I hit a brick wall every where I turned, and every single mental healthcare professional I spoke to told me the same thing. If he’d come to them BEFORE they would have had to turn him in. People are generally protective of themselves and would not see being put in prison for many years as the answer to their problem, so I don’t see too many looking for or asking for help. This has got to change if we expect to truly prevent this from happening.

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By: peacesinger https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-21 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:20:41 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-21 It is so good to read something thoughtful, intelligent, and reflective of the truth on the subject of sex offenders. I agree so much with those of you who are upset about people with “proclivities” not being able or not knowing how to get help. It is a direct result of SOCIETY’s ENABLING, its wish that sex offenses were not true. Instead of looking the other way, society chooses to dehumanize sex offenders so they can be effectively banished. No one wants to look at that, do they? Who wants to see their own pain?

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By: abnehmen https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-18 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 18:07:11 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-18 abnehmen…

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By: Ric Moore https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-17 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:56:38 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-17 Thank you Doctor Irwin, for you insight to the problem of reporting abuse. One impediment to reporting may be that the perceived punishment coming to the abuser outweighs the abuse to the victim, by family members and the abused themselves. Check other replies to other blogs and web articles where people are yelling for castration, or to see offenders set adrift on prison barges or pistol whipped, locked up for life, then you can understand the reticence. My victim told the Detective that she just wanted me to get some anger management. I am fortunate to have gone through the NC SOAR program where I got a LOT more than just that. Plus, we had weekly Yoga sessions, which I added to my intervention skills. To me, that is what prison could be about. Getting interventions and spending time digesting what you acquired. I spent my last couple of years regarding prison as an Ashram. Now, if only we could send everyone else there! 🙂 Ric

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By: Ric Moore https://drnancyirwin.com/they-are-not-all-monsters/#comment-16 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:40:01 +0000 http://drnancyirwin.wordpress.com/?p=90#comment-16 Whoops! I meant “county”, not country.

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